Blown sidewall.... bad timing- when isn't it?

[blair_b]

So I got a cut in the sidewall of one of my tires on Sunday... I wish I could say it was during a wheeling trip, but I can't. Just on a tour with the family making sure everything was cooling properly.

I've asked around and no one will patch it- understandably not safe for road use. So now I've got a dilema- specifically 3 MTR's 40-50% and a strong desire to not spend any more money on a truck I haven't been able to use yet.

I've sourced out the last remaining old style MTR at a local...

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[JeepJen]

If I were you and I had the cash I would buy 2 of the tires. Have 2 new on the rear, 2 old on the front - rotate regulalry and use the 3rd old as a spare.

 

[Dirk]

Not patching sidewalls is such bullshit.... you should see the stuff they do to tractor tires, they'll fix those forever. I wonder if one told them it was for a farm wagon...hhhmmm?

Anyway.

35's on your 30 front.....is it locked? if it is you'll take your chances everytime you mash the pedal.
On the other hand why by a tires of size you dont really want?

 

[blair_b]

...hmmm, I may have to run my "Massey" wheel down to the shop. Hey feller, that's a nice rim for a Massey. R u sure the bolt pattern is rite??

Who said anything about not wanting 35's? I'd love to shove a set under it... it's the initial cost and the cost after things start to react to the increase in size that scares me. I'm open on both diffs too. More pondering... anybody wanna buy 3 MTR's? Could possibly come with an xj?

 

[Richard]

Not patching sidewalls is such bullshit.... you should see the stuff they do to tractor tires, they'll fix those forever. I wonder if one told them it was for a farm wagon...hhhmmm?

How often does that tractor go over 100km/h? Believe me I know how much it sucks, I've had 5 cut sidewalls and all on tires with more than 75% threads :banghead: But loosing control on the highway because of a blowout would suck even more.

Back to the Q, the 30 will be a ticking time bomb with 35s. With proper driving it can last a while but you should plan for breakage and to eventually swap it.

 

[Dirk]

about 10 years ago I bought a set of 35's, new and cheap, because one of them was damaged.
Someone at the tire dealers shop had put a forklift fork through the sidewall. The repaired it and sold it....
was it safe? I ran them for a few yaers, highway and trail and no failure.
They must have felt it was safe and not a risk to their liability 9which is what they uaually tell us is the reason for not repairing).

Why sell that new and repaired tire but not repair ones we bring in?
My guess...when its their money, a tire in inventory they paid for get damaged, then its ok. But if you bring one in....well, its your money....and theyd rathe make more by selling you a new one.

I currently have an expensive heavy duty trailer tire in for repair (over $350 retail) with a sidewall slice...and it being fixed...vulcanized crack and a boot on the inside. they routinely do the same with other commercial vehicle tires...as these are usually expensive and commercial users are not as easily put off as recreationl users.

Its not a safety thing, as these tires carry heavier loads at the same speeds as ours....its purely a monetary issue.

my $0.02

 

[blair_b]

great feedback guys. Dirk, what shop is doing the repair for you? I'm currently driving around working with the sick tire in the trunk of my sunfire... sometimes I pull it out at malls and stand with one foot on it, wearing sunglasses of course.

I'm headed up to Pembroke today so I'll likely be passing by the shop you use. Give me ring if you get a chance 282-8112.

Thanks!

 

[JeepJen]

How often does that tractor go over 100km/h? Believe me I know how much it sucks, I've had 5 cut sidewalls and all on tires with more than 75% threads :banghead: But loosing control on the highway because of a blowout would suck even more.

x2
I was going to point out a tractors top speed is what 40k?
Defiantly not highway driven.
my 2 cents

 

[Richard]

I've driven on tires with plugged sidewalls and didn't have an issue, but that doesn't mean it wasn't risky.

Dirk, are all those repaired tires you describe bias or radial? I believe it's the radials they don't like to repair, at least that has been the case for me and would be for most people. And if you do know of a shop that will repair radial sidewalls then advertise them here, I still have 2 $400 tires I could repair.

 

[Dirk]

Truck and trailer tires I have had experience with were all radial, most Tractor tires are radials also.

Getting mine done at Protire in Renfrew....but the have been funny too lately.

Generally if the carcase (cords) are not damaged its repairable. But, sometimes you cannot see the damage to the underlying structure until you start cutting away the rubber.
Also if the tire sustained a severe impact, it may be bruised, which as far as I know means that the there is separation of the cords within and/or between plys.
Often the two types of damage occur together.

Sorry for the rant last night. This has been a peev of mine for a long time.
So much so that I am considering learning how to properly repair tires and offering that service. But they considerab le cost of supplies and equipment has sofar kept me from it....... I wonder if there is a market. :stir:

 

[Root Moose]

This has been a peev of mine for a long time.
So much so that I am considering learning how to properly repair tires and offering that service. But they considerab le cost of supplies and equipment has sofar kept me from it....... I wonder if there is a market. :stir:

Don't forget to price liability insurance while you are at it. I'd expect this is what puts the commercial entities off it.

 

[Richard]

You're peeved? I've lost about $1500 in tires because of cut sidewalls that no one would touch issed: I still have a 35" SSR that I'm keeping as my spare and a 35" Krawler where the hole is too big to plug, this one might become a swing.

BTW, never buy Interco SSR tires for an off-roader :banghead:

 

[Dirk]

Don't forget to price liability insurance while you are at it. I'd expect this is what puts the commercial entities off it.

yes, thats the biggest issue today...insurance and liability and everyone trying to blame someone else......but lets save that rant for another time and place.

What I am wondering about is a for offroad use only or racing use only disclaimer, like all the aftermarket parts manufacturers do. Whose parts all of us run on the street btw...:stir:

Or a disclaimer saying that the repaired tire is only to be used as a tire swing....what you do with it is you business.

 

[Dirk]

FYI... this is the after pic of the tire I had repaired last week:

there was a 1.5" slice down to the cords, when inflated the split was about 1/4" wide.
Wish I had taken a before pic...