Driveline donor

O.D.

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Looking at possibly using the driveline from a Dodge 2500 HD for a project i am mulling over...

Anybody have any experiences with the diffs and TC? Pretty sure their D60's fr and r, ps on the front.
 
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kbrousseau

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I have a 99 2500HD. It has 60's front and rear, the front is driverside but it is a vacuum disco axle. They use a NP241 T/C.
 

Kunker

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No personal experience, but read lots on teh vacuum disco stuff. Most folks say look for a Chev housing if you need pass drop as the opening for the shift fork as it were weakens the tubes, and you need to replace the shafts to get a 1-piece on the long side IIRC. Then throw in the cost of unit bearings or a conversion kit.
 

O.D.

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I want to stay away from the vacuum dicso. I fawked it up. I knew it was DS but for some reason i wrote PS??? I'd like to keep it DS just to be consistent with what's already there. Just trying to figure out if this will work for me as i can probably get a discount on parts if i take it all.
 

O.D.

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Yeah, i saw that... I am just not sure on the widths and whether or not they are the same..

I have a similar post on pirates and based on one of the replies, the front axle is an AAM 9.25" and the rear is an AAM 10.5. Yet on what i have seen so far online, they all say Dana 60's? If they are not D60's, from what i have been advised, these other two do not have allot of options for aftermarket parts, which can be a concern.....
 

Farm Boy

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the front axle is an AAM 9.25" and the rear is an AAM 10.5. .....

I've read this before, including in a couple magazines. -- atleast the AAM part. Apparently it makes a great SFA swap to late model GMs, all the sensors plug in.

I'd be inclined to use a Ford HP 60 and shave a 14B. Depending on horsepower, rear 60s sometimes don't hold up with the skinny pedal.
What's the engine & trans in the proposed rig? From the donor Dodge?
 

O.D.

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Well... I have been toying with all sorts of ideas lately :)

Picked up a 2000 TJ last week and was planning on building it up, trail only. Plan is to use the complete driveline from the donor.

5.7L Hemi / 545RFE / NV271 and the axles... BUT, the more i dig around, the more i find out that in or around 2002 Dodge moved from sourcing Dana axles to AAM axles. And from that i have read that there is little in the way of upgrades, options on these axles (I.E. locker selection, gears, etc....).

So... I just might go with the engine/tranny and then save up for an atlas perhaps....

I'd like to go Ford D60 but they're so damn pricey. What about non-king pin 60's from later model fords? For the rear 14B are so cheap to buy but i don't think I have the skills to shave one so have been avoiding it.

AND, then my mind shifts into another gear, I start surfing pirates and am looking at all sorts of fully built buggies ready to go for way less than what i know it will cost to build this up in the end.....
 

Kunker

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Yep, AAM axles in the later Dodges, and while they are stout, I've read the same things on locker/gear selection.

My understanding is that the non-kingpin 60's are fine, the BJ's are the only suspect part (obviously) but lots of folks run them. One thing to note is that the short side is very short and it can be harder to fit link mounts/shock/spring/etc.

Why not skip the Hemi and look at an LSx engine/TH400 trans combo? Tried and trued, and fairly easy to get 400+ hp out of if you're looking for power.

For the buy/build discussion, what is more fun for you? The build, or getting out on the trail? Personally, I'd probably skip the build and pick up a buggy down south if I was looking for a trailer queen. Lots of $$$ saved and you still have the option to change things around to make it yours.
 

O.D.

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[hijack] If you end up not wanting to keep Rob's TJ, call me! [/hijack]
:)


Why not skip the Hemi and look at an LSx engine/TH400 trans combo? Tried and trued, and fairly easy to get 400+ hp out of if you're looking for power.

From what i have read, working with a Chrysler product is easier to integrate than others... Plus, i have a handle on a setup right now :)

For the buy/build discussion, what is more fun for you? The build, or getting out on the trail? Personally, I'd probably skip the build and pick up a buggy down south if I was looking for a trailer queen. Lots of $$$ saved and you still have the option to change things around to make it yours.

That's the Million dollar question. Pros and cons in all directions.

Build = Fun, learn lots, personal self satisfaction / = Bad, unhealthy, pricey, gonna take a while, less time with family, etc...
Buy = Fun, instant, ready to go, save money / = Bad, instant debt, might not be Exactly what you want, gonna have to probably deal with the border and importing
 

Farm Boy

Bought the Farm
For the rear 14B are so cheap to buy but i don't think I have the skills to shave one so have been avoiding it.

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You certainly have the skills. You can gain almost 3/4" of an inch with just a grinder. Check Bill's tech articles, he's got a pretty good writeup in there which included having the ring gear machined down. I'll be shaving mine as much as I can before I get into the ring gear.
 
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