Excursion Oil Pan and Spring replacement.

dwcjwerfner

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Well my Excursion has about 170k on it and the typical problems had reared their head. These consist of sacked out springs as Ex's are sport utes and were designed to fit in 7' garages so they have totally different spring than stand Super Duty's with a height of 79.8" which are also very pliant for a nice ride which make them wear out. I had been driving around with about 5/8" of clearance to my bump stops and finally decided I had enough and after perusing the interweb and talking to...
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dwcjwerfner

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Wow over 10000 words, can anybody believe my stories go on that long?

Anyway

I am really pissed, I am positive I am doing this right so I am under the truck trying to determine
exactly where this oil is coming from, I have lights, I have mirrors, I have a lot of oil in my hair.
I finally decide that is come from somewhere up on the engine.
I go to my buddy who works at the bus lines and quiz him as I had told him about the 45 minutes the first time and I tell him that that it was 15 minutes this time. Well of course he works on these all the time
and would have checked the engine over better than I had in the first place, so when he thinks about it he says: "Is there any oil in the intake valley?".

Well apparently when anything leaks on top of the engine it runs down the valley and exits through the bell housing and down the side of the block right about the corner of the oil pan...
I knew it was wet up there because I had a leaking fuel filter the week before and just assumed that it was pooled and hadn't evaporated yet.

So I degreased the entire valley so it was almost spotless and my buddy told me to "sprinkle baby powder all over the engine", I used wild rose as that was what Connie had in stock. :D

Within minutes of starting up I saw my leak exactly where it was and where it was going to. Oh and he says he doesn't even bother to wash it off after as it makes the engine smell nice and he is right.




Ahhhh.......I was under there every day for 11 days straight......



A little persausion and the axle was in place.

Notice that is not 5/8" to bump stop anymore.


As it took me much longer that anticipated I did not have time to put rear springs on before leaving for Cuba and I had not bought them as I wanted to see how much higher the front was going to be than the before. So I drove around for almost 2 weeks with the front about 5" higher than the back, and people laughed and pointed, and my wife said "your tires look so small" to which I retorted "you're right, I need bigger tires :flipoff:".
Anyway when I finally got the rears which are F350 HD springs to install we had those snow storms in between and I had a 1'x2' ball of frozen snow and ice wedged up above the rear diff being held in place by the fuel tank with all the fuel lines and wires and ABS lines and wires frozen into it, luckily it didn't rip anything apart and after having a furnace fan blowing on it for 2 hours it finally thawed enough to break apart.



The good news is with the rears in it looks really good, I am about 4" over stock, the bad news that even the dorky guy at Canadian Tire gas bar said "Do you have other tires for that? They look really small." so bigger tires in the spring.
And do I think I am crazy for going through all that work and would I do it again? Yes and yes I would as the garage cost on just the oil pan part is at least $2000, even in the US they pay that much. The rad, oh well my mistake.....the water pump needed to be changed and those would have all been extra costs as well as having the springs changed.

dj
 

O.D.

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Note to self. If and when i go to write my memoirs, talk to Dwayne :)


That's some serious work you got going ..... Hope those bushings came in handy !!!!!
 

dwcjwerfner

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Note to self. If and when i go to write my memoirs, talk to Dwayne :)


That's some serious work you got going ..... Hope those bushings came in handy !!!!!

Yes actually Tim I did use them finally, I didn't put in the rears because I thought they might be to harsh so I will pull them back out in the spring and press the factory ones out and install them, it only took me 4 hours on a week night to install the rears, are they ever heavy though, I would say between 125-140lbs a side.
 
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CJMunky

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Hey dwayne, what did those leaf springs run you? I too am tired of my springs on the X being saggy, How do they ride? And all I can say is oh my jebus, i hope that leaky pans arent a problem with the 6.0L as well, but if it is, at least i know someone who i can ask, where the best spot to plasma my frame out is. Awesome write up.
 
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dan_the_man

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Well, since I'm actually looking into buying a 7.3 Ford in the next year or so this was a very entertaining and useful read.

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dwcjwerfner

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Hey dwayne, what did those leaf springs run you? I too am tired of my springs on the X being saggy, How do they ride? And all I can say is oh my jebus, i hope that leaky pans arent a problem with the 6.0L as well, but if it is, at least i know someone who i can ask, where the best spot to plasma my frame out is. Awesome write up.

Leafs were $280 a side for the front and $260 for the rear. They ride......well firmer but the old ones were really sacked, I need shocks too which I just haven't got around to but I am definitely not unhappy with them it is a truck and rides more like a truck now, it is smoother than a Dodge but that's not hard to do lol. I would like to ride in a super-duty to see if mine is smoother but overall I do like them, I left the overloaders in which "they" say you should take out but when I had 4080 pounds of scrap on my trailer last month and it was fairly tongue heavy I didn't have any squat lol. When I do the bushings I may pull the overloaders. I had 7 adults in over Christmas and they did comment "it was a little bouncy" but it was on a fairly bad road and they own a mini-van so take that for what it's worth. And the EX on the scales is 8300lbs empty with 4300 on the front and 4000 on rear so it is fairly balanced (might do well at the track) whereas I figure your average 350 is probably only 3000 on the rear. If you want next time you are in the area drop in and I will take you for a ride, not on a cold day though :p

dj
 
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