Roommate debt advice

[DoctorPhate]

So my room mate(a couple of you met him on the last trail run I was on) owes me quite a bit of money in backed rent. I was pretty lax saying ok well you know pay me when you find a job so we just kept tabs on how many months rent he owed me. Total was 1300$.

He then told me hes moving out by sept, basically trying to force me to be stuck with the place by leaving without giving me notice as per the lease. Well he got his first pay(he gets paid 600 every two weeks) told me too bad he wants...

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[Root Moose]

Give him the remainder of the agreed upon payment cycle to settle up.

After that take him to small claims court. If he is going to be a dick make sure he understands there are repercussions.

 

[DoctorPhate]

Give him the remainder of the agreed upon payment cycle to settle up.

After that take him to small claims court. If he is going to be a dick make sure he understands there are repercussions.

I cant see him actually showing up to small claims court. Hes going to keep claiming hes making payments.

I'm kind of leaning towards taking all his stuff and holding onto it until he pays. or simply having someone pay him a visit.

 

[Kunker]

I cant see him actually showing up to small claims court. Hes going to keep claiming hes making payments.

I'm kind of leaning towards taking all his stuff and holding onto it until he pays. or simply having someone pay him a visit.

Don't keep his stuff, you could be charged with theft or the like at that point. Is his name on the lease as well? Any proof or contract on splitting expenses? Lessons like this are why I'll never have a room mate again.

 

[whateverworks]

Is his name on the lease or is the lease actually a rental agreement?
Either way if he signed it he is financially responsible for the rent payments as well as you are... But if you are the only person who has signed the rental/lease agreement you could be fucked for whats owing and never see a dime from him because you harboured him as a boarder.
Now as a tennent who has signed a rental/lease agreement it will be up to you to get the funds owed by your room mate if he is considered a boarder... and if he is a boarder (acording to provincial law in Ontario) you can ask him to leave with 24hrs notice unlike a renter (pending on landlord and severity of eviction) can be asked to leave as quick as 7 days if taken through proper steps of tribunal in Ontarios LandLord tennant Agreement Act.
Personally I would kick his sorry ass out on the street and take hime to small claims court if he is no more than a boarder (this will cost you $75 but that $75 could be forced to be paid by the judge overseeing the case) But if he has his name on a rental/lease agreement you can also take him through tribunal according the the Landlord Tennant Agreement Act of Ontario (if this is the case then you will have to give notice accordingly unless tribunal honours you with the win) Then the local sheriff can kick him out and leave his stuff either on the curb or allow you to give access within a reasonable time for him to collect his things from the apartment with permission from you at an agreed date n time.
If he does not show up on that date n time you can call the stuff yours if you choose and sell it off to recoup the funds you lost cause the bum is not paying rent.
I have been through this as a superintendent of a building... Make sure you know and understand your rights before you take steps or it can all go bad... this I have learned from personal expeience.
Hope that helps the thought process of what to do with non-payment of rent.
Kelly

 

[Dirk]

Hmmmm....

"I" would hold on to some of his things of approximately equal value of the debt owed. Tell him first, that's what I would do, after having secured said items.

Not saying you shoul do this. It's what I would do.

Whatever you decide to do, be ready to deal with the consequences. And remember the old adage about possession being 9/10 of the law.

 

[DoctorPhate]

He WAS my best friend for over 10 years so when he needed a place to stay I said you can come stay here. Only trouble is I live in Quebec and he is going to school so OSAP wouldnt pay if he had a quebec address. So I said well we'll leave you off the lease until Oct. when OSAP has already paid out as an ontario resident.

So, as far as anyone knows... all the stuff in the house could be mine since he doesnt live there.

And Dirk, i think we are pretty like minded. I dont want his stuff, I want my money but if keeping his stuff as collateral is whats required for the loan then thats fine.

The way I look at it is, when you Pawn an Item you dont get the cash and the items, you get the cash OR the item. So I'd be considering it a pawn basically. he gets his stuff back when his debt is paid. And since im a nice guy, as he pays back I'll incrementally give back stuff of equal value. lol

I'm just so fed up with dealing with this dick head.

 

[2Greys]

You could also tell him that OSAP would be extremely interested in the fact that he was living in Quebec and gosh it would be really horrible if they found out. I am sure they would want their money back let alone this may be considered fraud. >
That might be motivation in itself.

 

[Andy4802]

You are going to lose a LOT of credibility in small claims court if you hold his stuff hostage. The easiest solution is not alway the best.

 

[bzzr2]

i was going to put some thoughts in here, but really my thought is you should have this thread deleted so you can address this, you know what you have to do already.

 

[DoctorPhate]

You could also tell him that OSAP would be extremely interested in the fact that he was living in Quebec and gosh it would be really horrible if they found out. I am sure they would want their money back let alone this may be considered fraud. >
That might be motivation in itself.

I think this is probably the BEST solution. Thanks man.

I agree, taking his stuff loses credibility and can cause issues down the road. I'm just so pissed that someone I've known for over 10 years would screw me like this.

 

[Cochise]

Call his parents. They're probably giving him rent money, and would be interested to know that he's doing something else with it.

 

[DoctorPhate]

Call his parents. They're probably giving him rent money, and would be interested to know that he's doing something else with it.

They're not. Hes on his own with that regard but they do send him money for food, phone bill, etc. I'm calling them this weekend and letting them know what hes doing. They're family friends after all.

 

[Root Moose]

Just be aware, depending on how delusional the parents are with respect to the kid they probably won't believe you or they will say it is somehow your fault. Being a person of low moral fibre tends to be a learned thing...

An alternate:

Walk away from the guy/money, dump all his stuff out in the street and tell him where it is. Do this strategically so that he does not get access to house (change keys first or whatever), he arrives just as you've dumped out the last item. Make sure you park your vehicles somewhere else that day and for the next few days.

There's an old saying that goes something like "if you loan a friend $100 and you never see them again it was money well spent".

 

[DoctorPhate]

Just be aware, depending on how delusional the parents are with respect to the kid they probably won't believe you or they will say it is somehow your fault. Being a person of low moral fibre tends to be a learned thing...

An alternate:

Walk away from the guy/money, dump all his stuff out in the street and tell him where it is. Do this strategically so that he does not get access to house (change keys first or whatever), he arrives just as you've dumped out the last item. Make sure you park your vehicles somewhere else that day and for the next few days.

There's an old saying that goes something like "if you loan a friend $100 and you never see them again it was money well spent".

Which is what I would normally do. However its not 100$, its $850. Thats TWO of my daily driver cars. lol

 

[DannyL]

Just be aware, depending on how delusional the parents are with respect to the kid they probably won't believe you or they will say it is somehow your fault. Being a person of low moral fibre tends to be a learned thing...

An alternate:

Walk away from the guy/money, dump all his stuff out in the street and tell him where it is. Do this strategically so that he does not get access to house (change keys first or whatever), he arrives just as you've dumped out the last item. Make sure you park your vehicles somewhere else that day and for the next few days.

There's an old saying that goes something like "if you loan a friend $100 and you never see them again it was money well spent".

X2

A friendship is based on trust, once trust is gone not much to preserve after that....

Been there done that, got the burn marks to prove it.

 

[Logan]

Ever watch machines of malice? Build an iron maiden... He will learn...