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D44 3.92+ carrier
- Thread starter Kunker
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Farm Boy
Bought the Farm
Yup, there most definatley is -- changes with the axle though. Some axles one carrier does all ratios, some have 2 different, some might even have 3.
If you use a full case locker (Detroit, ARB etc) the carrier gets replaced.
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kbrousseau
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No waggy from the late 70's up would have ever come with 3:92 gears or higher. An 80 waggy front 44 would need the different carrier. BJ's Offroad sell these carriers and the price isn't to bad. An early J series truck could have up to 5:13 from the factory.
I didn't even know there was such a thing as thick or thin gears, so I have no idea how to tell them apart.
I didn't even know there was such a thing as thick or thin gears, so I have no idea how to tell them apart.
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CJMunky
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Thick gears will be marked with a T after the serial number stamped on the ring gear. The dana 44 carrier has a carrier break at 3.73 / 3.92 gears. So, there is two dana 44 carriers, one carrier that fits 3.73 and numerically lower gears, and one for 3.92 and numerically higher gears.
Thick gears, were designed to offer the 3.92 and numerically higher gears, on the 3.73 and numerically lower carrier.
For example: I had a set of Dana 44 axles from a Scout. They originally had 3.07 gears. which means that both axles have the Dana 44 3.73 and numerically lower gear carriers. I wanted to regear to 4.88's, so I had a choice of buying the new 3.92 and numerically higher carriers and the standard 4.88 gears. After some research, I found 4.88 Thick gears. (488T) which would give me the ratio i wanted, and would still fit on the 3.73 and numerically lower carriers. I also did this because I think that a thicker ring gear will help in building the breakage out of the ring gear by offering a bit more stregth due to a thicker ring. (more metal is good right?)
Other ratios are available as well, 4.88, 4.56, 4.10 and I think even 5.13 can all come in thick gearsets to fit the numerically lower carriers. I purchased mine from Randy's Ring and pinion, (ringpinion.com) They were made by Yukon.
The Waggy carriers, other than spline counts, should not vary in size or from year to year. A dana 44 carrier is a dana 44 carrier, with some some exceptions being, rubi 44's, High pinion 44's, lockers and the carriers break sizes. The way to tell the difference between the carrier types (373 minus and 392 plus) is the thickness of the ring gear mounting flange. I dont know the measurements off hand, but I know they can be found online.
I hope this helps
Thick gears, were designed to offer the 3.92 and numerically higher gears, on the 3.73 and numerically lower carrier.
For example: I had a set of Dana 44 axles from a Scout. They originally had 3.07 gears. which means that both axles have the Dana 44 3.73 and numerically lower gear carriers. I wanted to regear to 4.88's, so I had a choice of buying the new 3.92 and numerically higher carriers and the standard 4.88 gears. After some research, I found 4.88 Thick gears. (488T) which would give me the ratio i wanted, and would still fit on the 3.73 and numerically lower carriers. I also did this because I think that a thicker ring gear will help in building the breakage out of the ring gear by offering a bit more stregth due to a thicker ring. (more metal is good right?)
Other ratios are available as well, 4.88, 4.56, 4.10 and I think even 5.13 can all come in thick gearsets to fit the numerically lower carriers. I purchased mine from Randy's Ring and pinion, (ringpinion.com) They were made by Yukon.
The Waggy carriers, other than spline counts, should not vary in size or from year to year. A dana 44 carrier is a dana 44 carrier, with some some exceptions being, rubi 44's, High pinion 44's, lockers and the carriers break sizes. The way to tell the difference between the carrier types (373 minus and 392 plus) is the thickness of the ring gear mounting flange. I dont know the measurements off hand, but I know they can be found online.
I hope this helps
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I've heard that the bolts used to hold the thicker gears on the carrier are larger than the "thin" gears, and as such, the mounting holes on the carrier need to be drilled out. Any truth to this in your case?
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CJMunky
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As this was my first regear, I never did the install myself, a friend of a friend of some guy that someone else knew did it. However, the work he did was excellent, and I did see various stages of the install and I did question him quite alot about it. At no point did he tell me that he had to drill them out. Also, I noticed no visible difference between the old ones and the new ones. I have never seen or heard of this issue, it is actually the first time I have ever heard it brought up. A simple phone call or email to a retailer or a manufacturer, like richmond or yukon, and I'm sure they would be able to tell you for sure.
As well, aside from that, I still have one of the original copies of the installation instructions for those gearsets and it was never mentioned at all in those. So I will go with 'no'. However the guys that make em would be the best source of info for that.
*edit* I almost completely forgot. The gears were originally installed on a D44 spool that I have, I have since replaced it with an open carrier for street reasons. I looked at the holes, and there is no evidence of them being drilled out. If he did, he has the finest drilling ability and tools I have ever seen. Liek I said before though, I have never even heard of that being an issue.
As well, aside from that, I still have one of the original copies of the installation instructions for those gearsets and it was never mentioned at all in those. So I will go with 'no'. However the guys that make em would be the best source of info for that.
*edit* I almost completely forgot. The gears were originally installed on a D44 spool that I have, I have since replaced it with an open carrier for street reasons. I looked at the holes, and there is no evidence of them being drilled out. If he did, he has the finest drilling ability and tools I have ever seen. Liek I said before though, I have never even heard of that being an issue.
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Andy4802
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i've got the carrier if you are still looking
http://ovo.ca/forums//showthread.php?3567-rear-TJ-Dana-44-carrier-with-4-10-s
http://ovo.ca/forums//showthread.php?3567-rear-TJ-Dana-44-carrier-with-4-10-s