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Big-Hoe
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I am sorry that you got a flat on the first time out. I do hope you enjoyed the rest!
The piece of culvert we are talking about is at the first mud hole, just before the first rock obstacle. That culvert was there to allow passage of a small stream. There are sections of culvert abandoned on the trail (can be seen on the way back). Would anyone be interested in helping install a new section of culvert there, before the ground freezes? It would involve some shitty, backbreaking mud shoveling. I will be there on Saturday morning.
The piece of culvert we are talking about is at the first mud hole, just before the first rock obstacle. That culvert was there to allow passage of a small stream. There are sections of culvert abandoned on the trail (can be seen on the way back). Would anyone be interested in helping install a new section of culvert there, before the ground freezes? It would involve some shitty, backbreaking mud shoveling. I will be there on Saturday morning.
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Big-Hoe
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Maybe that culvert protected us from an unpassable swamp. Maybe it was important to the local ecosystem. Maybe that stream was an aesthetic pleasantry, awarded to the homeowners that now reside on the end of our trail. Regardless, we broke it, we should fix it.
Cochise
Well-known member
Sure, it is most likely that it got broken from many passages over it, but since it was completely under water anyway, I'm not sure what functional purpose it was serving.
We'd probably be doing a greater service hauling that POS Grand Cherokee that some assholes left there instead. Don't know how we would do it short of cutting it up into pieces, and hauling it out a piece at a time.
We'd probably be doing a greater service hauling that POS Grand Cherokee that some assholes left there instead. Don't know how we would do it short of cutting it up into pieces, and hauling it out a piece at a time.
Cochise
Well-known member
Seriously, it's a blight and anybody who walks there from their homes immediately associates the rumbling trucks that once in a while go through there with a garbage 4x4 that was left without any responsibility, i.e. don't-give-a-fawk yahoos.
While Luc (Big-Hoe), me, and the two new peeps were out there, there were people walking along the edge of the pond and asked what we were going. Luc spoke to them briefly about us following the trail that was there.
Carp is not a great trail, granted, but it is very visible to people who aren't in the sport. It's a great intro to new wheelers/people, too. Merge those two different view points new wheeler and non-wheeler , co-existing, education on both sides, and this is where the Carp brings value.
While Luc (Big-Hoe), me, and the two new peeps were out there, there were people walking along the edge of the pond and asked what we were going. Luc spoke to them briefly about us following the trail that was there.
Carp is not a great trail, granted, but it is very visible to people who aren't in the sport. It's a great intro to new wheelers/people, too. Merge those two different view points new wheeler and non-wheeler , co-existing, education on both sides, and this is where the Carp brings value.
DAN for Mayor!!!!
I should bring up that for the last two years, I have volunteered to lead the Carp for the official club runs . Not because it is a "golly-gee best trail run evar" but because I feel the same way. It's a great trail to cut your teeth on the first time and someone needs to lead it. This year has been bad for me as I haven't had the ability to get out as often due to work, finances, etc but I can do Carp within three hours from doorstep to doorstep. The job has really evolved where it has become more and more difficult to get away since we were running with 30% less staff, bringing on new responsibilites and no budget to hire (has its benefits but...). Some of the other trails kill a day completely and haven't had the luxury. I was lucky to get out to Lavant as something regarding work was canceled, I am hoping this year I may get more time as we finally hired someone.
The question I have is do you think we would be able to get the Grand Cherokee out of there next spring? I think we would most likely have to take it out by the Crazy Horse and if we did that, we would have to talk to some people regarding crossing over their land (ex. the developer/homeowners). I think if we approached them about what we want to do they may be ok with it the one time.
The questions I have are:
1. Anyone interested? I think it's a good idea and would be up for it in whatever way I can in the Spring, just looking for if anyone is interested and may be up for it around April barring any engagements.
2. What do we need to do it?
I think it would be a huge undertaking and I don't know if anyone has the equipment to do it but it may make the locals look a bit differently on us (most likely not). However if we do get it out, we should come up with a way of identifying the turnaround spot. We could also make it a cleanup excursion. This trail is used and abused by a lot of club members and non-members probably more than any other trail. Every time we go out, we make sure we bring everything out with us but I think it deserves a walk through anyways and I'm mulling about maybe setting up a run early next year just for that purpose. Maybe contact OJC and EOTB as well as I am sure they use and may want to (if they don't already).
The question I have is do you think we would be able to get the Grand Cherokee out of there next spring? I think we would most likely have to take it out by the Crazy Horse and if we did that, we would have to talk to some people regarding crossing over their land (ex. the developer/homeowners). I think if we approached them about what we want to do they may be ok with it the one time.
The questions I have are:
1. Anyone interested? I think it's a good idea and would be up for it in whatever way I can in the Spring, just looking for if anyone is interested and may be up for it around April barring any engagements.
2. What do we need to do it?
I think it would be a huge undertaking and I don't know if anyone has the equipment to do it but it may make the locals look a bit differently on us (most likely not). However if we do get it out, we should come up with a way of identifying the turnaround spot. We could also make it a cleanup excursion. This trail is used and abused by a lot of club members and non-members probably more than any other trail. Every time we go out, we make sure we bring everything out with us but I think it deserves a walk through anyways and I'm mulling about maybe setting up a run early next year just for that purpose. Maybe contact OJC and EOTB as well as I am sure they use and may want to (if they don't already).