Anyone feel like wrenching on a TJ - Possible help needed

Twinkie

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Hey Matt, If you swing by Richards and lend a hand I will bring the upper and lower control arms at the same time..

Even if he doesn't show you could leave them at Richard's, since Matt lives across the road.... Lol

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Mud Rookie

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Then if that's the case then Matt has no reason not to show up... Right Matt ?! .. LOL

What about you Mr. Twinkie..... you going to swing by and take a gander as to whats going on and maybe even wrench a little.... ??? I am bringing FREE beer.... !!!
 

Twinkie

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I will be flying out to Tennessee that day.

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chunkytrunks

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Haha it is st patties day after all. Im sure i will be around at some point to lend a hand.

Then if that's the case then Matt has no reason not to show up... Right Matt ?! .. LOL

What about you Mr. Twinkie..... you going to swing by and take a gander as to whats going on and maybe even wrench a little.... ??? I am bringing FREE beer.... !!!
 

Mud Rookie

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Hey everyone.

For those of you who are coming to Richards this Sunday should I buy some grease for the ball joints along with the grease dispensing gun ??? if so are there any recommendations regarding the grease type and brand and the gun. I know that Canadian tire carries these products and I was there just a few hours ago. I saw many saying multipurpose, high temp, low temp, white lithium, red/tacky lithium..... Lucas, Canadian Brand etc.... ???So many to chose from I was a little confused and the guys there were not that much help...

What ever grease I get can use the same grease on tie rod ends as well ???

How about a ball joint tool.? Should I get one of those as well ?

Sorry for all the questions. I just do not want to show up empty handed (accept with the BEER...) I do not want to rely on everyone else to supply all the tools and extras.... I just want to pitch in and not feel like I am relying on all of you to supply and do everything. That's not my intention....

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Richard

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I use Motomaster Moly grease. It's a step up from generic grease but not too expensive as every time after you go through water or mud you'll want to pump in new grease. Get a standard large gun and tubes and bring it Sunday. Depending on all the grease points you may need different tips, but don't worry about it for Sunday as we can use my tools and you can learn what you need. I use the same grease everywhere, but I'm no expert so maybe you shouldn't listen to me.

Don't bother with the ball joint tool, my tool should work.

You should bring a bit of pop, iced tea, or something for those that need to drive home after ;)
 

Kunker

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I use Motomaster Moly grease. It's a step up from generic grease but not too expensive as every time after you go through water or mud you'll want to pump in new grease. Get a standard large gun and tubes and bring it Sunday. Depending on all the grease points you may need different tips, but don't worry about it for Sunday as we can use my tools and you can learn what you need. I use the same grease everywhere, but I'm no expert so maybe you shouldn't listen to me.

Don't bother with the ball joint tool, my tool should work.

I was pretty much going to say the same thing. Pick up a grease gun and get familiar with using one (you'll be doing it a lot), and as Richard said, you'll also likely need to grab some different tips to get all of the joints (axle, driveline, TRE's, BJ's, etc, etc). Better to find out what you need for tips first rather than buying all sorts of stuff you don't need right now.

The ball joint tool is a "nice to have" sort of thing, but not something you would be using regularly, so it's easier to rent/borrow for the odd occasion they need to be changed.
 

Mud Rookie

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Sweet, Thanks guys...

I will get the large grease gun w/ rubber flexible hose extension and large tubes of grease....The Ball Joint tool is only $15 at Canadian Tire.... I will grab that as well just in case.... Pop, iced tea etc as well...... I have been putting as much penetrating oil as possible on each bolt, nut and anything else I think needed it... I apologize ahead of time but I do undercoat my truck 2wice yearly so pretty good chance that everything is very well lubed already.... The guys at PJF had no seizing issues when installing my lift yet they cursed me for the amount of undercoating that was under the Jeep... :)
 

Richard

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If it's $15, I don't think it's the same tool we're talking about. I'm referring to a C shaped press (http://www.princessauto.com/pal/product/8354714/Steering-%26-Suspension/3-in-1-Ball-Joint-/-U-Joint-/-C-Frame-Press-Service-Kit) that removes the ball joint from the inner C. I'm guessing you're referring to something that looks kinda like a tuning fork?

I have that c-clamp, just not any of the adapters, do we need those?

Danny, I'm not worried about the undercoating as you're the one that's going to be doing the wrenching ;)
 

Mitko

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I am out as I have more important things to do; if the adapters don't fit the BFH always helps; joke aside the adapters included in the kit are more than enough. Tip: you might want to cut out the stud of the old ball joint; makes easier pressing it out. The most important tools: 12 point 13 mm. socket and wrench. If some questions arise don't hesitate to ask.
 

dwcjwerfner

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Just a point of interest I have the good u-shaped tool and other ball joint tools. When none of those seem to want to work I resorted to the internet's biggest solution and all I use now is a BFH. If it is not coming apart you are not hitting it hard enough and if you are damaging it when hitting it you are hitting it in the wrong spot. I am pretty sure the D30 is just like the D44, 4 real whacks at the most and the ball joint falls out.
 

Richard

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How about pressing the new ones in? Will just the clamp do it?

I have a stand up hydraulic press, we could always pull out the axle and hold it up in the press :lmao:
 

Cochise

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Tip: you might want to cut out the stud of the old ball joint; makes easier pressing it out.

^^^ Excellent advice. The ball joint I replaced was factory, on a '96. This was last year. :banghead:

On that end, I had to use the bigger cup, which was deep enough to accommodate the length of the stud and it was just a little too big (circumference wise) to stay stable when pressure was applied. I came > < close on the fifth try to cutting it off so that I could use a smaller cup that would hold better to the knuckle's surface.

Also, when using the BFH, bang on the knuckle itself to loosen it. Three hits on the knuckle, one on the ball joint. Heat liberally.
 
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chunkytrunks

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I have the 12point socket and the axle nut socket in my jeep.
I should still be in. But if im running late and you have questions just give me a call, done this many times haha.
But like i said i should be around to help out but i have to do a little work on my bros car so i wont be there all day
 

Richard

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Is this the same brother that made you swap his engine? Tell him he owes me for borrowing the hoist and jack and bring him over to do some wrenching ;)

I have 12 point sockets and I should still have lots of large sockets, one of them should fit.
 

Mitko

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Another tip: if one is in no need to replace the wheel bearing (hub assembly) there is no real need to remove the axle nut . The axle will come out with the hub assembly and the U-joint still can be changed. This in case one is in the middle of nowhere, have no big socket or is in a rush.
Just saying.
 
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