Well it looks like my Samurai is good to go with a 4:1 t-case borrowed from Chris Plumpton, so final arrangements will be done over the phone on Wed night....but before that, Brad and Mike, what in terms of stuff are you bringing? (camping stuff, like BBQs, utensils, dishes, tools, etc) Since we are a small group we should pack light, (less weight to burn up our gas!). We really only need 1 stove, 1 BBQ, 1 set of utensils and dishes, etc.....and I could provide all that stuff....Mike, I think you said you're bringing a wackload of tools, right? For food, we might as well wait till we get down there and buy it in the nearest town......what about 2 way radios, either of you guys have them? If so, bring them.....Someone should bring a few containers WITH water in them as we won't have any running water on site.....(cooking, cleaning, etc). Maybe Brad you could haul the water? I have a container I will fill and bring....perhaps you have one as well? Also make sure you have all the nessesary paperwork for your tow rig, trailer and trail truck...plus ID of course. Anything else I missed?? Oh yeah, a route to get there.....I know I85, but don't have particulars on the actual park and how to get there... anyone??