Project -XJ Evolution

dwcjwerfner

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Thanks Dirk
Yeah I have taken on quite and endeavour but my goal is to not only have a truck that works (for at least one run) but one that works all the time, correctly and actually looks good. Wish me luck.

dj

PS I have to keep turning the radio up sometimes to make up for the lack of your volume. LOL. :D
 

dwcjwerfner

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Well it is 3/4" plate attached to 1/4" perches bolted together with 3/4" bolts. So 1"" of solid metal and the mounts are welded inside and out and also welded to my spring pads. I was concerned I was over building it compared to spring perches normally only welded on the outside and held to the springs with 1/2" u-bolts. People who have seen it up close have commented "that's solid". Time will tell.

dj
 

dwcjwerfner

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You are right about the welds on the tube, but from what I have researched the link is usually just welded to the tube which is the same amount of surface area.

dj
 

Farm Boy

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How about running a 1/8" strap under the axle tube to tie the front and back of the perch together? This would help distribute the stress load that otherwise is applied at the ends of the perch. Ripping a link mount out of an axle tube is not fun.
 

Kunker

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I know Yota cases are different, but remember how Dirk ripped his perch out of the tube a year or so ago as well. The strapping idea seems like cheap insurance up front to the time/effort of finding a new housing and starting again.
 
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Dwayne i like the fact that its designed to unbolt from the link but i'm thinkin the 3/8 plate isnt going to be strong enough and bend where it joins the link. i might be wrong but i would add a gussett that comes off the link somehow
either way make all this stuff strong as heck because one links have a quirk when in the mid to lower traction steep stuff
 

dwcjwerfner

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Dwayne i like the fact that its designed to unbolt from the link but i'm thinkin the 3/8 plate isnt going to be strong enough and bend where it joins the link. i might be wrong but i would add a gussett that comes off the link somehow
either way make all this stuff strong as heck because one links have a quirk when in the mid to lower traction steep stuff

It is 3/4" plate does that make it better? Bolted to a 1/4" aftermarket perch, so 1" solid steel 6" long. Though now you have all made me think that I will gusset where it attaches to the 2x3 even more lol.
Though the comments I have had of anybody that has seen it in real life are "that is really beefy" or something to that effect.
dj
 
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dwcjwerfner

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The location of my fuel cell has been constantly moving as other things such as crossmember location etc have changed my original rear position as if I now left it there it would be way too low for my liking.
This location is pretty sweet as it gives a lower CG and does not interfere with my suspension at all, the problem is that it may be to close to my rear seat locations which are very cramped for leg room as I am putting a set of buckets back there. I ended up with it in the middle above the floor but I am not at all happy with that location and am working on trying to get it back to here.


I have bought a couple of little winches for suck down duties when they were on sale at CTC, interestingly one of them is a Superwinch 2000lb and the other is a SKF 3000lb, can you tell the difference?




So since Marek was doing his build I figured I would keep going and do things right. When Cory owned it he had fixed the floor pretty solid by putting 2 pieces of sheet metal screwed to the frame rail top and bottom which was quite strong but it accumulated quite a bit of dirt and rust between them and in the frame rail.
I shopped vac out both sides of the truck and actually took out about 5+ gallons on each side :eek:
Which is at least 50+ lbs of dirt under each front seat as it was all packed clay in the frame rails.
Which made me think about people asking if I was putting tubes for strength on my crossmember bolts and I was always like, well they seem to be holding fine, I now know why.....because the frame rails were actually a solid as I had to break alot of it out with pry bars before I could vac it up.




A shot of the fuel tank inside where I am not really happy with it being.


The spare tire mounted inside on an angle so I can still see out the back. Since I don't run SX's I have to bring a spare you know. :lmao:


A couple of pics of where the rear seats should end up



Just a shot of the ugliness of this whole project.


The start of my boatsides.


dj
 

Badweld

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Hey Dwayne. I have a 2.5 warn that I had the motor rebuilt, I planned on using it for a suck down. I'm using it for my snow plow right now, but it won't hold the weight of the plow. Will that small of winch suck the tuck down?
 

dwcjwerfner

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Hey Dan
Well it seems that people are using them, I know that Mike Lorint broke cable with a little winch like this, I will be using a snatch block so that will double the pull. If not I will have to look at a bigger winch and I am planning on going to rope for them as there is somebody on Pirate (Masterpull maybe) who is selling remnants (15-30ft) cheap.

dj
 

Farm Boy

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Mike's was on a snach block when it broke. Run a larger cable and you should be fine. Then again, your rig weighs 3 times what Mike's buggy did.

For what its worth, I'm going to be running an M6000 as my rear suck down winch -- a bit overkill but I have it and could always be used to pull me backwards if need be.
 

dwcjwerfner

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Mike's was on a snach block when it broke. Run a larger cable and you should be fine. Then again, your rig weighs 3 times what Mike's buggy did.

Actually probably only twice and that will probably help the suck down....that gravity thing you know, and I am not compressing air shocks which may be more or less I actually don't know that answer.

dj
 

Farm Boy

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With twice the weight(BTW, Mike's buggy weighed only 1600lbs or so), your springs will be twice as strong as Mike's air shocks. It's the strenght to compress the springs that you need.
 

aweber

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I have a supposed 3000lb one in the rear and with a snatch block it has a hard time compressing the suspension. I am running 300/250 springs in the coil overs.

That being said, it has saved my ass on at least two occasions so it has done it's job.
 

dwcjwerfner

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Dwayne : Have you concidered using a strap instead of cable on the suck down? I have seen way too many failed cables, bound up, frayed, slipped clamps....etc. Problem comes from the cable unspooling when not loaded, then putting jerking loads onto it. Sort of the main reason you never tug with your winch. If you want to use cable, keep the length to a minimum of what is required at full droop. Any more will just cause you grief.

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Hey Dan
Well it seems that people are using them, I know that Mike Lorint broke cable with a little winch like this, I will be using a snatch block so that will double the pull. If not I will have to look at a bigger winch and I am planning on going to rope for them as there is somebody on Pirate (Masterpull maybe) who is selling remnants (15-30ft) cheap.

dj

Using rope
 
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