PROJECT - Truktor

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Dirk

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yeah the price was right.
From what I have read they get less than favourable reeviews from nearly everyone who had anything to say about the subject. Except for a handfull who love them.....

Mounting these on the Toy is a bit of test, whether 38's fit and it can turn them. If not, I'll buy 36's (SX or IROK) before next season and the Michelins will go on what will be a diesel daily driver '79 Bronco.

I also picked up a set of half worn michelin XML's and a grooving tool is comming soon. I plan to sipe the XL's for a bit more tread flex and wet/rock traction, but really tear into the XML's and cut them up ,they were cheap, good practice and its gonna be a long winter.

Casing rigidity is a major feature of these tires, one that is a detriment for our type of use. So yes, i plan to run them nearly flat to break them in, which will probably be for the life of the tire.

As for 9r16, if BillyGoat's dont suit, check with CimminsLandrover, he may have a source.
I found the XL's on Kijiji in markham and the XML's came from Protyre in Renfrew, but he is out of them now.

Weight is another issue with these tires.
The XL's weight 96#, while the XML's are 115# without he runflat inserts, 175# with.
So I opted for alloy whels to keep the weight down a bit. Finding 16" Toy wheels was no small feat, thanks Dwayne. :beer:

Mounting these was not an enjoyable endeavor, as typical for Michelins the fit real tight.

damn they look good tho....:D

This is what the XML's look like:

updates this winter after I get a groover. X-mas is comming guys and I've been a good boy....*hint*. :flipoff:

This is the runflat stuf, 60# of rubber.


The outer "ring" seem simalr to a V-Belt, while the inner "tire" is a solid chunk of rubber.
I had to remove it with hte sawsall, saw no other way to get it out. Any ideas are welcome.

Off to mout the tires on the truck.
 
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Farm Boy

Farm Boy

Bought the Farm
I hope you get your power steering issues figured out!!
Those would be a bit*h to turn without!! :lmao:

Also, Have you got longfields in the front yet? The torque of the deisel and the weight of those tires, even open will likely break the stock birfs.
 
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Dirk

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Two exellent points. Both will get addressed this winter.
Planning on moving the pump below the Alternator (to tit the turbo) and chain driving it. That should stop the belt issues.

And longfields for sure, no way my stock shafts will survive next season.
 
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Dirk

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Spent the day at the Gorge, found some new rocks to climb and a bit of mud.
At 5lbs the Tires exeeded all my expectations. Even with a bit of wet snow i had no issues on te rocks and in the swamp the just walked through. :D
Not happy with the rims tho.... Stock toy with almost 5" backspacing, tires hit the springs and I dont like the narrow stance. Might fab up some custom beadlocks this winter.
Pics and video shold be up in a few days.
 
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Dirk

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Looks like I'll be running these or similalr diameter tires.
But I doubt my front axles will take it for long, so I'll get some Longfields installed this winter.
Looking at the site, they now have 30 spline axles and the 27's are on sale. Seems to me that the 27's have served many people well for a long time and since i don't have gobs of power they should work fine for me.
Will also pick up the hub gears as farmboy pointed out, I can see that value in that.

Thoughts?
 
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Cummins Land-Rover

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I've run 900R16 XLs, 11R16 XLs, and 325/85 XMLs. They absolutely suck in the snow. Worst tire for that use. They work great in the mud (expecially XMLs) and they aren't as stiff as everyone seems to think (the ones rockwelled rigs run are very stiff). I run my 325s at 0-3 PSI and they work great.

The nice thing about these tires is that they are ROUND. For the trailer queens, highway manners aren't a concern, but I can't run TSLs because I put so many highway miles on my rig, and swapping back and forth gets old. The XMLs have great highway manners, are radial, balance out perfectly, plus they are cheap. If you wan to drive to the trailhead, off-road, and drive home, they are pretty good.

Michel Guay in Montreal has hundreds of these tires. I am headed there in a week or so to pickup another set of XMLs, if anyone wants 900R16s let me know, I think he charges 100$ a piece for really good ones, less for not-so-good.
 
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Cummins Land-Rover

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10-4 How good do you want? For a trailer it probably doesn't matter much...
 
Farm Boy

Farm Boy

Bought the Farm
Dirk said:
Looks like I'll be running these or similalr diameter tires.
But I doubt my front axles will take it for long, so I'll get some Longfields installed this winter.
Looking at the site, they now have 30 spline axles and the 27's are on sale. Seems to me that the 27's have served many people well for a long time and since i don't have gobs of power they should work fine for me.
Will also pick up the hub gears as farmboy pointed out, I can see that value in that.

Thoughts?
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I'm running the 30s, I didn't even consider the 27s. The inner axles on the 30s are larger and worth the extra $70 in my mind.
It appears that the 27s that are on sale are the birfs only, you'll want the inner axles too. I figure it's worth every penny to reduce the chances of busting on the trail.
 
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Dirk

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Farm Boy said:
I'm running the 30s, I didn't even consider the 27s. The inner axles on the 30s are larger and worth the extra $70 in my mind.
It appears that the 27s that are on sale are the birfs only, you'll want the inner axles too. I figure it's worth every penny to reduce the chances of busting on the trail.
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cool, thanks for the input. 30 spline it is. :)
 
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Dirk

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Some pics with the rubber on the truck:

Front view:


Rear view:


At 0 psi:


and on the way home from the trail:


I am not real happy with the narrow stance, eventhough it goes with the Agricultural theme of the Truktor build. :D

I am looking for some steelies with 3" - 4" backspacing. These alloys have nealy 5" which is too much and makes the front tires touch the springs.
 
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Dirk

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I am considering them, but don't really like. Seems to me that by spacing the wheel out further the load on the front bearings change. But at $106/pair they are cheaper than 5 new wheels. I may buy 4 and see. Especially since I do like the look of the OEM Toy alloys I just picked up.

I see the beginning of a Trail-Gear order.
 
Richard

Richard

Commoner
Club Member
Dirk said:
I am considering them, but don't really like. Seems to me that by spacing the wheel out further the load on the front bearings change. But at $106/pair they are cheaper than 5 new wheels. I may buy 4 and see. Especially since I do like the look of the OEM Toy alloys I just picked up.

I see the beginning of a Trail-Gear order.
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It doesn't matter to the bearings whether you push your tires out using wheel spacers or different back spacing rims, the forces acting on them will still be the same. So might as well pick whichever you prefer, or move the springs :D
 
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Dirk

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Mud Lite said:
Coils! Air Shox! Coil Overs? .......hehehehehe!
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next build...... :clue:

YJ_Driver said:
It doesn't matter to the bearings whether you push your tires out using wheel spacers or different back spacing rims, the forces acting on them will still be the same. So might as well pick whichever you prefer, or move the springs :D
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I can't find anything wrong with htat reasoning. I'll get some 2" spacers. :)
 
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Dirk

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Mounted my spare.


and on the truck


quite a lift by myself....

damn thing squats the back of the truck 1/2".

and took some measurements:
under the diff, 13"


belly hight, 23"


rear bumper, 31"


front bumper, 32.5"


forgot to measure aproach and departure angles......:banghead:....next post.
 
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